Using PokerTableRatings With FullTilt
Posted on Feb 03, 2009 by Gugel in General
I got an email from FullTilt poker this afternoon that basically said I could no longer use PokerTableRatings.com. Here it is for your viewing pleasure:
Your account has been temporarily suspended as it has recently come to our attention that you have been using prohibited software while playing on Full Tilt Poker. In particular (but not limited to) pokertableratings.com.
For further clarification, please review our policies against the use of prohibited software:
http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/prohibited_programsIn addition, please note that by registering an account on Full Tilt Poker, you have agreed to be bound by the rules of fair play and ethical conduct specified in our Site Terms and End User License Agreement:
http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/site-terms
http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/end_user_license_agreement
If you wish to have your account reinstated, send a request to security@fulltiltpoker.com acknowledging that you have read and understand these conditions and agree to comply with them from this point forward.
Regards,
Keith N
Security
Full Tilt Poker
I got my account reinstated pretty quick, but I gotta say, I was a bit pissed. In every other profession, it’s not considered unethical to research your competition. In fact, that’s what competent people do. Why should poker be any different? I understand that FullTilt has the best intentions in mind and wants a level playing field for everyone. I agree with their intentions, but I just don’t see how PokerTableRatings conveys a significant advantage to anyone for the following reasons:
- It’s free for anyone to use
- The site is widely known
- It’s only use is looking at an opponent’s winrate and deciding whether or not you want to play that particular opponent.
If you have a few seconds, use this email I prepared to send FullTilt an email telling them to unban PokerTableRatings. All you have to do is enter your FT alias, your email address, and click send.
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10 Responses to “Using PokerTableRatings With FullTilt”
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Lorin
07. Feb, 2009
I have to say the most frightening thing here is: how did they possibly know what website you were searching on?
And yes, this is bull shit, BTW.
Gugel
07. Feb, 2009
Yea Lorin I agree. It’s pretty disturbing that FT tracks everything you are doing while you have their program running.
daven
21. Jul, 2009
If you had bought hands from PTR then you deserve to have your funds confiscated, if not, surely you’re smart enough to not open a banned website while playing? their rules, like them or leave.
For those who don’t like that FTR track what you do, deal with it. It’s better that they can see what porn you are watching than that other players can be colluding and using cheat software.
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22. Jul, 2009
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John
03. Aug, 2009
@Daven
“It’s better that they can see what porn you are watching than that other players can be colluding and using cheat software.”
Invasion of privacy with the promise of security, you’re kidding yourself.
1. You could simply setup some type of IM on another machine
2. You can still run tracking software through another machine.
They give you a false sense of security and you just eat it up. Scary…
me
18. Aug, 2009
Try not using PTR while playing! Read the fine print.
rory
22. Sep, 2009
Strange, I’ve used PTR while playing for as long as I can remember and I have never gotten such an email. In fact, up until reading this I never knew it wasnt allowed. I guess they don’t do a very good job of screening for this. Either that or they have some sort of agenda about who they enforce their rules upon.
PrivacyInvasion
30. Jan, 2010
No Poker Website should be spying on it’s user’s surfing habits.
It’s clear Full Tilt has less integrity than it’s players when you hear this crap is going on. PokerStars once tracked websites visited as well but stopped this spying because their customers were disgusted when they found out about it.
Full Tilt customers need to express their disgust.
It constantly amazes me how much freedom people are willing to give up for a little security. Hitler set the parliament building on fire, blamed the communists and declared martial law with the populations consent.
It’s no different with 9/11 and terrorists. Freedoms are increasingly disappearing…
John smith
07. May, 2010
Look guys, you’re probably too young to know this, but there is another form of poker than the kind on the internet or on ESPN. It’s called live poker, and played face-to-face. There are generally accepted rules of conduct, called etiquette (look it up), and where you would very likely get your punk-asses kicked for cheating (see FTP rules), not to mention calling someone a “donkey/moron/fish/idiot” (get some original words at least). Besides, it’s not like any of you are making money anyway.
Hans Peter
28. Jul, 2010
John you are ridiculous. I am def a profit player with over 2k BR and i have huge live cash game winnings in berlin. i didnt know either that ptr wasnt allowed while playing. and looking up the guy who hast just sucked out on you has in my opinion nothing to do with the etiquette. as u surely know, there are huge differences in the etiquette between playing live and online.